Suddenly going to the grocery store and forgetting my ID brings on a whole new hurdle. Going anywhere for that matter. So as a child when I watched films on Nazi Germany and the USSR, and people being harrassed for their papers . . . brings on a whole new meaning. Seriously, I can get stopped walking in front of my house, and because I might not have my ID, I get fined $500?
I’ve read a lot of opinions comparing this to the S.S. demanding papers. Notwithstanding the fact that old adage about how you automatically lose an argument once you bring up Hitler, I think that’s a point. I don’t see how this “law” can even be LEGAL.
I’m curious what kind of ID will be required. Are people really supposed to carry birth certificates, naturalization papers, or visas everywhere? How insane is that?
And there’s no getting around the racism. If my white Canadian friend and Latina sister were walking down the street, it’s the U.S. native, not the citizen of a foreign nation, who’s going to be asked for papers.
My VERY first thought was of Nazi Germany. Conversation stopper though it might be, it is tremendously appropriate here.
I have heard/read many people say that legal immigrants prefer to keep their papers in a safe deposit box…they are terribly difficult to acquire, you wouldn’t want to lose them (or be attacked by someone looking to hawk them on the black market).
Interesting practical point — is a photocopy going to be sufficient? Or are people really supposed to carry around original documentation? What if, as you point out, it’s lost or stolen?
I also wonder about the impact on children and teens. I assume minors can and will be stopped and questioned, both with and without their parents/guardians present. I can’t imagine how frightened so many Arizona families must be feeling right now.
Terri–You and I have similar practical concerns. I don’t think anyone should have to carry their birth certificates, naturalization papers, or visas everywhere, but there’s also no way I’d carry my original papers around.
Nikki–I hadn’t even yet thought about authorities stopping minors without their parents/guardians. Words cannot express how terrible I think this law is.
Suddenly going to the grocery store and forgetting my ID brings on a whole new hurdle. Going anywhere for that matter. So as a child when I watched films on Nazi Germany and the USSR, and people being harrassed for their papers . . . brings on a whole new meaning. Seriously, I can get stopped walking in front of my house, and because I might not have my ID, I get fined $500?
I’ve read a lot of opinions comparing this to the S.S. demanding papers. Notwithstanding the fact that old adage about how you automatically lose an argument once you bring up Hitler, I think that’s a point. I don’t see how this “law” can even be LEGAL.
Movie rental recommendation: “Born in East L.A.”
I’m curious what kind of ID will be required. Are people really supposed to carry birth certificates, naturalization papers, or visas everywhere? How insane is that?
And there’s no getting around the racism. If my white Canadian friend and Latina sister were walking down the street, it’s the U.S. native, not the citizen of a foreign nation, who’s going to be asked for papers.
My VERY first thought was of Nazi Germany. Conversation stopper though it might be, it is tremendously appropriate here.
I have heard/read many people say that legal immigrants prefer to keep their papers in a safe deposit box…they are terribly difficult to acquire, you wouldn’t want to lose them (or be attacked by someone looking to hawk them on the black market).
Interesting practical point — is a photocopy going to be sufficient? Or are people really supposed to carry around original documentation? What if, as you point out, it’s lost or stolen?
I also wonder about the impact on children and teens. I assume minors can and will be stopped and questioned, both with and without their parents/guardians present. I can’t imagine how frightened so many Arizona families must be feeling right now.
Terri–You and I have similar practical concerns. I don’t think anyone should have to carry their birth certificates, naturalization papers, or visas everywhere, but there’s also no way I’d carry my original papers around.
Nikki–I hadn’t even yet thought about authorities stopping minors without their parents/guardians. Words cannot express how terrible I think this law is.